{"id":24062,"date":"2014-01-17T15:00:18","date_gmt":"2014-01-17T14:00:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/?p=24062"},"modified":"2014-01-21T18:38:48","modified_gmt":"2014-01-21T17:38:48","slug":"no-spy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/?p=24062","title":{"rendered":"No spy?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"height:70px;\"><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #FFA500;\"><FONT SIZE=\"4\"><em>Asymmetrischer Informationsverlust<\/em><\/FONT><\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"height:10px;\"><\/div>\n<figure id=\"attachment_24063\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-24063\" style=\"width: 600px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/wp-content\/uploads\/20140117_gaycken_sandro_600.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/wp-content\/uploads\/20140117_gaycken_sandro_600.jpg\" alt=\"Dr. Sandro Gaycken\" width=\"600\" height=\"342\" class=\"size-full wp-image-24063\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/wp-content\/uploads\/20140117_gaycken_sandro_600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/wp-content\/uploads\/20140117_gaycken_sandro_600-300x171.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-24063\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dr. Sandro Gaycken<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div style=\"height:10px;\"><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ffa500;\">J\u00f6rg Wagner:<\/span> <em>Ist es vielleicht dann doch so, wie es Sascha Lobo sagt, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.faz.net\/aktuell\/feuilleton\/debatten\/abschied-von-der-utopie-die-digitale-kraenkung-des-menschen-12747258.html\" target=\"_blank\">dass das Internet kaputt<\/a> ist?<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ffa500;\">Sandro Gaycken:<\/span> <span style=\"color: #c0c0c0;\"> Pfff. Das ist einfach sowieso eine bescheuerte Idee gewesen, ja? To begin with &#8230; sozusagen, also diese &#8230; das entbirgt nur seine furchtbare Naivit\u00e4t und wie dusslig er da war, das \u00fcberhaupt so als Werkzeug von Freiheit und Gro\u00dfartigkeit hinzustellen, ja? Das Internet ist gut f\u00fcr Pornographie und Shopping. Selbst dabei holt man sich nachher von Viren ein. Und ansonsten ist es eher schwierig.&#8220;<\/em><\/p>\n<div style=\"height:50px;\"><\/div>\n <audio   controls > <source src=\"http:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/audio\/20140117_gaycken_sandro_lang_128.mp3\" type='audio\/mpeg' \/> <object   type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\"  data=\"https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/wp-content\/plugins\/wphtml5player\/inc\/flowplayer.swf\"  width=\"400\"  height=\"30\"> <param name=\"movie\" value='https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/wp-content\/plugins\/wphtml5player\/inc\/flowplayer.swf' \/><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value='false' \/><param name=\"cachebusting\" value='true' \/><param name=\"bgcolor\" value='#000000' \/><param name=\"flashvars\" value='config={\"plugins\":{\"controls\":{\"height\":30,\"autoHide\":false,\"fullscreen\":false}},\"clip\":{\"autoPlay\":false,\"url\":\"http:\\\/\\\/www.wwwagner.tv\\\/audio\\\/20140117_gaycken_sandro_lang_128.mp3\"},\"playlist\":[{\"autoPlay\":false,\"url\":\"http:\\\/\\\/www.wwwagner.tv\\\/audio\\\/20140117_gaycken_sandro_lang_128.mp3\"}],\"play\":{\"opacity\":0}}' \/>  No audio playback capabilities, please download the audio below<br \/><strong>Download Audio:<\/strong> Closed Format: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/audio\/20140117_gaycken_sandro_lang_128.mp3\">MP3<\/a> <\/object> <!-- Generated by HTML5 Multimedia Framework (http:\/\/code.google.com\/p\/html5videoplayer) --> <\/audio>  \n<div style=\"height:10px;\"><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #FFA500;\">Wer:<\/span> Dr. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.inf.fu-berlin.de\/groups\/ag-si\/Sandro.html\" target=\"_blank\">Sandro Gaycken<\/a>, Technik- und Sicherheitsforscher, FU Berlin<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #FFA500;\">Was:<\/span> Interview \u00fcber Spionage, Gegenspionage und das Internet<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #FFA500;\">Wann:<\/span> rec. 17.01.2014\/ 12:30 Uhr; ver\u00f6ffentlicht am 18.01.2014\/ 18:11 Uhr im radioeins-Medienmagazin, in Ausschnitten im rbb-Inforadio am 19.01.2014<\/p>\n<div style=\"height:20px;\"><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #FFA500;\">Vgl.:<\/span><br \/>\nVideofassung des Interviews mit Dr. Sandro Gaycken<br \/>\n<div class=\"BorlabsCookie\"><div class=\"_brlbs-content-blocker\"> <div class=\"_brlbs-embed _brlbs-video-youtube\"> <img class=\"_brlbs-thumbnail\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/wp-content\/plugins\/borlabs-cookie\/images\/cb-no-thumbnail.png\" alt=\"YouTube\"> <div class=\"_brlbs-caption\"> <p>Mit dem Laden des Videos akzeptieren Sie die Datenschutzerkl\u00e4rung von YouTube.<br><a href=\"https:\/\/policies.google.com\/privacy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\">Mehr erfahren<\/a><\/p> <p><a class=\"_brlbs-btn _brlbs-icon-play-white\" href=\"#\" data-borlabs-cookie-unblock role=\"button\">Video laden<\/a><\/p> <p><label><input type=\"checkbox\" name=\"unblockAll\" value=\"1\" checked> <small>YouTube immer entsperren<\/small><\/label><\/p> <\/div> <\/div> <\/div><div class=\"borlabs-hide\" data-borlabs-cookie-type=\"content-blocker\" data-borlabs-cookie-id=\"youtube\"><script type=\"text\/template\">PGlmcmFtZSBsb2FkaW5nPSJsYXp5IiB3aWR0aD0iNDAwIiBoZWlnaHQ9IjIyNSIgc3JjPSIvL3d3dy55b3V0dWJlLW5vY29va2llLmNvbS9lbWJlZC9HRjVCcElIa2RKTSIgZnJhbWVib3JkZXI9IjAiIGFsbG93ZnVsbHNjcmVlbj48L2lmcmFtZT4=<\/script><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_24112\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-24112\" style=\"width: 400px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/wp-content\/uploads\/20111013_gaycken_sandro_400.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/wp-content\/uploads\/20111013_gaycken_sandro_400.jpg\" alt=\"Dr. Sandro Gaycken, 2011\" width=\"400\" height=\"225\" class=\"size-full wp-image-24112\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/wp-content\/uploads\/20111013_gaycken_sandro_400.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/wp-content\/uploads\/20111013_gaycken_sandro_400-300x168.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-24112\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dr. Sandro Gaycken, 2011<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n<div style=\"height:10px;\"><\/div>\n<p> <audio   controls > <source src=\"http:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/audio\/20111013_gaycken_sandro.mp3\" type='audio\/mpeg' \/> <object   type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\"  data=\"https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/wp-content\/plugins\/wphtml5player\/inc\/flowplayer.swf\"  width=\"400\"  height=\"30\"> <param name=\"movie\" value='https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/wp-content\/plugins\/wphtml5player\/inc\/flowplayer.swf' \/><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value='false' \/><param name=\"cachebusting\" value='true' \/><param name=\"bgcolor\" value='#000000' \/><param name=\"flashvars\" value='config={\"plugins\":{\"controls\":{\"height\":30,\"autoHide\":false,\"fullscreen\":false}},\"clip\":{\"autoPlay\":false,\"url\":\"http:\\\/\\\/www.wwwagner.tv\\\/audio\\\/20111013_gaycken_sandro.mp3\"},\"playlist\":[{\"autoPlay\":false,\"url\":\"http:\\\/\\\/www.wwwagner.tv\\\/audio\\\/20111013_gaycken_sandro.mp3\"}],\"play\":{\"opacity\":0}}' \/>  No audio playback capabilities, please download the audio below<br \/><strong>Download Audio:<\/strong> Closed Format: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/audio\/20111013_gaycken_sandro.mp3\">MP3<\/a> <\/object> <!-- Generated by HTML5 Multimedia Framework (http:\/\/code.google.com\/p\/html5videoplayer) --> <\/audio>  <br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/audio\/20111013_gaycken_sandro.mp3\">Download<\/a> (verlinkte Audio-Quelle: rbb, radioeins)<\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"height:10px;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"height:10px;\"><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #FFA500;\">Wer:<\/span> Dr. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.inf.fu-berlin.de\/groups\/ag-si\/Sandro.html\" target=\"_blank\">Sandro Gaycken<\/a>, Technik- und Sicherheitsforscher, FU Berlin<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #FFA500;\">Was:<\/span> Interview \u00fcber Bundestrojaner und der Wert des Internets f\u00fcr die Demokratie<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #FFA500;\">Wann:<\/span> rec.: 13.10.2011; <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/16YB6TM\" target=\"_blank\">ver\u00f6ffentlicht<\/a> am 15.10.2011 im radioeins-Medienmagazin, in Ausschnitten im rbb-Inforadio am 16.10.2011<\/p>\n<div style=\"height:20px;\"><\/div>\n<hr>\n<div style=\"height:10px;\"><\/div>\n<p>Barack Obama NSA-Rede vom 17.01.2014<br \/>\n<div class=\"BorlabsCookie\"><div class=\"_brlbs-content-blocker\"> <div class=\"_brlbs-embed _brlbs-video-youtube\"> <img class=\"_brlbs-thumbnail\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/wp-content\/plugins\/borlabs-cookie\/images\/cb-no-thumbnail.png\" alt=\"YouTube\"> <div class=\"_brlbs-caption\"> <p>Mit dem Laden des Videos akzeptieren Sie die Datenschutzerkl\u00e4rung von YouTube.<br><a href=\"https:\/\/policies.google.com\/privacy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\">Mehr erfahren<\/a><\/p> <p><a class=\"_brlbs-btn _brlbs-icon-play-white\" href=\"#\" data-borlabs-cookie-unblock role=\"button\">Video laden<\/a><\/p> <p><label><input type=\"checkbox\" name=\"unblockAll\" value=\"1\" checked> <small>YouTube immer entsperren<\/small><\/label><\/p> <\/div> <\/div> <\/div><div class=\"borlabs-hide\" data-borlabs-cookie-type=\"content-blocker\" data-borlabs-cookie-id=\"youtube\"><script type=\"text\/template\">PGlmcmFtZSBsb2FkaW5nPSJsYXp5IiB3aWR0aD0iNDAwIiBoZWlnaHQ9IjIyNSIgc3JjPSIvL3d3dy55b3V0dWJlLW5vY29va2llLmNvbS9lbWJlZC9wNE1LbTJ1RnFWUT9yZWw9MCIgZnJhbWVib3JkZXI9IjAiIGFsbG93ZnVsbHNjcmVlbj48L2lmcmFtZT48L3A+<\/script><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Barack Obama im ZDF-Interview vom 18.01.2014 (\u00fcbersetzt)<br \/>\n<div class=\"BorlabsCookie\"><div class=\"_brlbs-content-blocker\"> <div class=\"_brlbs-embed _brlbs-video-youtube\"> <img class=\"_brlbs-thumbnail\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/wp-content\/plugins\/borlabs-cookie\/images\/cb-no-thumbnail.png\" alt=\"YouTube\"> <div class=\"_brlbs-caption\"> <p>Mit dem Laden des Videos akzeptieren Sie die Datenschutzerkl\u00e4rung von YouTube.<br><a href=\"https:\/\/policies.google.com\/privacy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\">Mehr erfahren<\/a><\/p> <p><a class=\"_brlbs-btn _brlbs-icon-play-white\" href=\"#\" data-borlabs-cookie-unblock role=\"button\">Video laden<\/a><\/p> <p><label><input type=\"checkbox\" name=\"unblockAll\" value=\"1\" checked> <small>YouTube immer entsperren<\/small><\/label><\/p> <\/div> <\/div> <\/div><div class=\"borlabs-hide\" data-borlabs-cookie-type=\"content-blocker\" data-borlabs-cookie-id=\"youtube\"><script type=\"text\/template\">PGlmcmFtZSBsb2FkaW5nPSJsYXp5IiB3aWR0aD0iNDAwIiBoZWlnaHQ9IjIyNSIgc3JjPSIvL3d3dy55b3V0dWJlLW5vY29va2llLmNvbS9lbWJlZC9vVC1QTUVGZzVDOD9yZWw9MCIgZnJhbWVib3JkZXI9IjAiIGFsbG93ZnVsbHNjcmVlbj48L2lmcmFtZT48L3A+<\/script><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Barack Obama im ZDF-Interview vom 18.01.2014 (englische OF)<br \/>\n<div class=\"BorlabsCookie\"><div class=\"_brlbs-content-blocker\"> <div class=\"_brlbs-embed _brlbs-video-youtube\"> <img class=\"_brlbs-thumbnail\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/wp-content\/plugins\/borlabs-cookie\/images\/cb-no-thumbnail.png\" alt=\"YouTube\"> <div class=\"_brlbs-caption\"> <p>Mit dem Laden des Videos akzeptieren Sie die Datenschutzerkl\u00e4rung von YouTube.<br><a href=\"https:\/\/policies.google.com\/privacy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\">Mehr erfahren<\/a><\/p> <p><a class=\"_brlbs-btn _brlbs-icon-play-white\" href=\"#\" data-borlabs-cookie-unblock role=\"button\">Video laden<\/a><\/p> <p><label><input type=\"checkbox\" name=\"unblockAll\" value=\"1\" checked> <small>YouTube immer entsperren<\/small><\/label><\/p> <\/div> <\/div> <\/div><div class=\"borlabs-hide\" data-borlabs-cookie-type=\"content-blocker\" data-borlabs-cookie-id=\"youtube\"><script type=\"text\/template\">PGlmcmFtZSBsb2FkaW5nPSJsYXp5IiB3aWR0aD0iNDAwIiBoZWlnaHQ9IjIyNSIgc3JjPSIvL3d3dy55b3V0dWJlLW5vY29va2llLmNvbS9lbWJlZC92NE90REVOTU9EOD9yZWw9MCIgZnJhbWVib3JkZXI9IjAiIGFsbG93ZnVsbHNjcmVlbj48L2lmcmFtZT48L3A+<\/script><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Claus Kleber \u00fcber sein Obama-Interview vom 18.01.2014<br \/>\n<div class=\"BorlabsCookie\"><div class=\"_brlbs-content-blocker\"> <div class=\"_brlbs-embed _brlbs-video-youtube\"> <img class=\"_brlbs-thumbnail\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/wp-content\/plugins\/borlabs-cookie\/images\/cb-no-thumbnail.png\" alt=\"YouTube\"> <div class=\"_brlbs-caption\"> <p>Mit dem Laden des Videos akzeptieren Sie die Datenschutzerkl\u00e4rung von YouTube.<br><a href=\"https:\/\/policies.google.com\/privacy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\">Mehr erfahren<\/a><\/p> <p><a class=\"_brlbs-btn _brlbs-icon-play-white\" href=\"#\" data-borlabs-cookie-unblock role=\"button\">Video laden<\/a><\/p> <p><label><input type=\"checkbox\" name=\"unblockAll\" value=\"1\" checked> <small>YouTube immer entsperren<\/small><\/label><\/p> <\/div> <\/div> <\/div><div class=\"borlabs-hide\" data-borlabs-cookie-type=\"content-blocker\" data-borlabs-cookie-id=\"youtube\"><script type=\"text\/template\">PGlmcmFtZSBsb2FkaW5nPSJsYXp5IiB3aWR0aD0iNDAwIiBoZWlnaHQ9IjIyNSIgc3JjPSIvL3d3dy55b3V0dWJlLW5vY29va2llLmNvbS9lbWJlZC9CUFEwY1RwT21xdz9yZWw9MCIgZnJhbWVib3JkZXI9IjAiIGFsbG93ZnVsbHNjcmVlbj48L2lmcmFtZT48L3A+<\/script><\/div><\/div>\n<div style=\"height:70px;\"><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #888888;\">(Foto: \u00a9 J\u00f6rg Wagner)<\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"height:20px;\"><\/div>\n<p><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/apis.google.com\/js\/plusone.js\">\n  {lang: 'de'}\n<\/script><g:plusone><\/g:plusone><br \/>\n<script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"http:\/\/twittercounter.com\/embed\/?username=medienmagazin&#038;style=avatar\"><\/script><noscript><a href=\"http:\/\/twittercounter.com\/medienmagazin\">medienmagazin on Twitter Counter<\/a><\/noscript><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Asymmetrischer Informationsverlust J\u00f6rg Wagner: Ist es vielleicht dann doch so, wie es Sascha Lobo sagt, dass das Internet kaputt ist? Sandro Gaycken: Pfff. Das ist einfach sowieso eine bescheuerte Idee gewesen, ja? To begin with &#8230; sozusagen, also diese &#8230; das entbirgt nur seine furchtbare Naivit\u00e4t und wie dusslig er da war, das \u00fcberhaupt so [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[17],"tags":[505],"class_list":["post-24062","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-aktuell","tag-nsa"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/24062","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=24062"}],"version-history":[{"count":32,"href":"https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/24062\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":24117,"href":"https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/24062\/revisions\/24117"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=24062"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=24062"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wwwagner.tv\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=24062"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}